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In the last 3 months I have been to Europe 3 times, each time I have been asked to register for EES in each direction. The first time appeared to work well. The next times I was asked to go to manual passport desk with Milan manned desks being a 400m detour. Clearly it’s not working as intended. Anyone explain what is going on? Why is every system seemingly completely different machinery and not linking to other countries??
Not sure why you expected any different to be honest.
Projects like this are always a farce
EES will not be fully operational until at least September 2026, and ETIAS will now not start until at least April 2027.
What do you mean by “register”? Queue, then give your face and hand scan?
Won’t you have to do those things every time?
What do you mean by “register”? Queue, then give your face and hand scan?
Won’t you have to do those things every time?
First Entry (New Registration): You must provide fingerprints and a facial image (photo) at a kiosk or with a guard, even for children.
Subsequent Entries: Simply scan your passport; your digital record is already in the system.Every time was photo and fingerprints and the jobsworthy man in uniform didnt care that I was already registered. Yes I have had to queue both ways last week at Milan quite separate from the manned passport desks. Innsbruck was efficient in late January at the manned booths but why was it necessary after I had done the first set at Warsaw at the entry manned passport booth in Dec. Seems the 3 countries aren’t linked yet. Annoying I now need a new passport so probably have to do all over again!
Not sure why you expected any different to be honest.
Projects like this are always a farce
Yes you are right. Consultants steal the public purse and deliver junk
Think you’re looking for the Daily Maul pal, system worked fine for me last week.
Think you’re looking for the Daily Maul pal, system worked fine for me last week.
Was that first re-entry after a previous registration, or was it first registration (in which case you won’t know until you travel to Europe again)?
Think you’re looking for the Daily Maul pal, system worked fine for me last week.
Isn’t the whole point of a forum to share experiences and perhaps then try to hold companies and other entities to task? I don’t think we will be pals.
Every time was photo and fingerprints and the jobsworthy man in uniform didnt care that I was already registered. Yes I have had to queue both ways last week at Milan quite separate from the manned passport desks. Innsbruck was efficient in late January at the manned booths but why was it necessary after I had done the first set at Warsaw at the entry manned passport booth in Dec. Seems the 3 countries aren’t linked yet. Annoying I now need a new passport so probably have to do all over again!
The fact you have already registered doesn’t mean you don’t need to provide fingerprints on each future trip… and for the time being, for UK passport holders, get a stamp.
What do you mean by “register”? Queue, then give your face and hand scan?
Won’t you have to do those things every time?
First Entry (New Registration): You must provide fingerprints and a facial image (photo) at a kiosk or with a guard, even for children.
Subsequent Entries: Simply scan your passport; your digital record is already in the system.Mine have been recorded at all entries and exits so far. I thought that was their right to check.
Every time was photo and fingerprints and the jobsworthy man in uniform didnt care that I was already registered.
I think you may have misunderstood. If you’re asked for photo and fingerprints, you can’t just refuse (unless you don’t wish to enter Schengen any more). You may be asked at any entry or exit.
I don’t know why they don’t use the same technology as US Global Entry. Once registered and biometrics have been captured, it just needs a facial photo at the border without even scanning the passport. I suppose the overall group size is relatively small compared to that for EU EES, but – given how paranoid the USA is – it must’ve been proven to work.
Every time was photo and fingerprints and the jobsworthy man in uniform didnt care that I was already registered.
I think you may have misunderstood. If you’re asked for photo and fingerprints, you can’t just refuse (unless you don’t wish to enter Schengen any more). You may be asked at any entry or exit.
So we can expect as a Brexited passport holder to be scanned every trip? Or is @Sandy M correct above? Maybe we will be fed adverts between scans so Europe can recoup some costs. Or a tat market open up so the unnecessary queue can be entertained whilst waiting for yet another scan.
Once the images are obtained they are surely shared across Schengen and further scans are unnecessary unless former scans are lost or corrupted. They were telling all UK passport holders to queue and rescan at a single machine in Milan T2 MXP. Only when it was clear that the plane risked being delayed did they say it was fine to not wait any longer and to go straight through the traditional booth. It just seems that the staff have no training or it is deliberately inconvenient.Information about this does seem rather inconsistent and confusing, my understanding was that as non EU passport holders we’d need to still visit a kiosk every visit as that as questions regarding that visit not just ESS registration the difference would be that the after your first visit it would only require one biometric usually a photo. This has been my experience so far but my boyfriend has to give fingerprints again at Basel when I didn’t so who knows. Stamps remain until ESS is fully rolled out and the system holds all entry and exit information so no more flicking through passports trying to add up total days in the last 180 days
I don’t know why they don’t use the same technology as US Global Entry. Once registered and biometrics have been captured, it just needs a facial photo at the border without even scanning the passport. I suppose the overall group size is relatively small compared to that for EU EES, but – given how paranoid the USA is – it must’ve been proven to work.
And in airports where they don’t have the facial recognition I’ve used the app on my phone to scan my face and generate a QR code.
As much as I find a lot of public infrastructure in the US to be very clunky, I agree that GE is an excellent example of a customer first system.
Every time was photo and fingerprints and the jobsworthy man in uniform didnt care that I was already registered.
I think you may have misunderstood. If you’re asked for photo and fingerprints, you can’t just refuse (unless you don’t wish to enter Schengen any more). You may be asked at any entry or exit.
So we can expect as a Brexited passport holder to be scanned every trip? Or is @Sandy M correct above? Maybe we will be fed adverts between scans so Europe can recoup some costs. Or a tat market open up so the unnecessary queue can be entertained whilst waiting for yet another scan.
Once the images are obtained they are surely shared across Schengen and further scans are unnecessary unless former scans are lost or corrupted. They were telling all UK passport holders to queue and rescan at a single machine in Milan T2 MXP. Only when it was clear that the plane risked being delayed did they say it was fine to not wait any longer and to go straight through the traditional booth. It just seems that the staff have no training or it is deliberately inconvenient.They’re entitled to ask third country nationals entry questions now and will still be in the future so yes at the end of the day. It may be smoother when Etias is in place. It will probably be a long time until it’s any better. For now, you must wait for your stamp regardless.
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